why are you pro-life/choice?--from the gURL boards
sweet-acid says, "I just thought it would be interesting to see your stance, and one reason why you are what you are.
I'm pro-choice for a ton of reasons, but my biggest one is that pregnancy is a life changing occurance and I don't think something so wonderful, or horrible, should be forced on you against your will because others think a fetus is more important than you."
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Posted by: dating girl | Dec 24, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I'm Pro Choice because although i agree that an unborn child still is a human being, each pregnancy is different and the circumstances change. Theres really no way to say abortion is always good or bad. If a 13 year old girl is raped and gets pregnant, how can you say that she MUST have the baby especially if it would be dangerous to both their health? I believe that in some cases abortion is the right way to go and in other cases its not. But the only opinion that should matter is the womans. Only she can decide whats best for her and her child. No one else has the right to decide for her.
Posted by: Gray | May 10, 2009 at 12:49 PM
I am pro-choice. These are the reasons why.
The unborn is an embryo or a fetus. It is not a baby, it is a collection of cells.
Without it's mother it has no other
sustainable life.
There is a difference between a human being and a human person, while the fetus is innocent and biologically human, it is not a person with a right to life.
Some people that are pro-life may argue that life begins at conception.
The ovum which developed into you was created when your mother was a fetus in your grandmother's womb. Sperm and ova are alive. When they connect, life continues. Nobody denies that an embryo or a fetus is alive, just that it is not "a life," as in independent and capable of survival outside of a host body.
60%-80% of all fertilized eggs spontaneously abort, often before the woman knows a conception ever took place. If there is a God, he's the biggest abortionist of all, since about 3/4ths of all "potential humans" end up in somebody's Tampax. He doesn't appear to have had much concern for infants or children either. Up until fairly recently, 25% of all pregnancies carried to term ended in the deaths of the mothers, with the babies often not too far behind. It was rare up until this century for a family, even with eight or more births, to have more than two children survive to adulthood, because childhood diseases took such a heavy toll. It took the ingenuity of man to come up with vaccines to eliminate most of those early deaths. Unfortunately, they still happen all-too-often in third world countries. Every 2.5 seconds, a child under the age of five dies due to starvation or preventable diseases. So much for "God will provide."
Teenagers who become pregnant are far more likely to become a burden on society if they have the baby than if they get an abortion. Even putting it up for adoption, they often are forced or encouraged to leave school once they start to show.
Victims of incest and rape should not be forced to carry the baby. Even someone who has sex by choice should ot be forced to have the baby. This may cause severe phychological harm to the person.
To anyone that thinks birth control is a 100% way to ensure you wont get pregnant it is not.
And saying that if you are not ready for a child you shouldn't be having sex, that is also unrealistic. Sex is a nautrual human desire.
Basically I believe that if you are pro-life dont force your views on everyone else by trying to make abortion illegal. This would cause multiple issues. If you are pro-life just dont get an abortion.
Posted by: ashley | Mar 13, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Pro-choice = pro-death.... really grow up not everyone who is pro-choice think its right to have an abortion, they just think that its probably better to have the choice then have woman preform illegal abortions which can cause horrible infection and death or if not done proberly just make the child mentally disabled, or have a mother whos a crack addict have a child and try to take care of it, or a girl that got raped forced to have the child. But, pro choice is more then just abortion being a choice, but sex as a choice, adoption for a choice. Thats why its called pro choice because its the persons choice to make and no one elses business but their own and not looking down on people no matter what choice they make in my opinion if you dont want an abortion or are against it then don;t have one but dont force it on anyone else let everyone have their choice!
Posted by: someone | Mar 13, 2009 at 08:32 PM
kattt your poem kinda has a problem usually you cant get an abortion after 4 month! and at 2 months im sorry it dont look like a baby thou some anti abortion clinics say they do
Posted by: someone | Mar 13, 2009 at 08:16 PM
i do think that rape doesn't give you the chioce so abortion is TOTALY fine. i also believe that a fetus does not have the choice to live becasue someone id carrying them but if you had sex you did have a chioce so stop acting like you dont. i thnk alot of people look down on pregnet women istead of the not yet born child's father. he did it to! but you just have to be strong enough to overcome thart for your child. i had to be only this year.
Posted by: catherine | Mar 12, 2009 at 07:51 PM
okay i hate the whole "i have no choice" or "this was forced on me without choice".
YOU had a CHOICE to have SEX!
sex equals baby, maybe not all the time but if you choose to take the risk(condom or not) then you chose. if you were raped or something then that ofcourse needs to be an exception. i am so fed up with people "not having a choice".
i am not saying that the baby is more important than the mother at all, i'm just saying you DID have a choice.
Posted by: catherine | Mar 12, 2009 at 07:36 PM
Here's a story. Last October, I had sex. Knowing the consequences, I used a condom. This didn't stop me from being in a total panic 7 weeks later, convinced I was pregnant because that condom BROKE (although it turned out to be a false alarm). Did I WANT to have an abortion? No. But I weighed the options, and going through with the pregnancy would have RUINED my life. I would have had to drop out of university, giving up everything I've spent the last ten years of my life working for. I would've lost the trust of my family. And this is WITH adoption.
The argument that if you're old enough to have sex you're old enough for a baby is faulty. Have you ever met a 13-year-old girl? NOT fit to be mothers. Boys can get girls pregnant by the age of, oh, 11. BAD BAD BAD argument.
On top of that, adoption is not a great choice. There are thousands of kids all over the world who will never have homes because couples in America figure that some dumb white girl will get knocked up and want to give away her baby. Let her get an abortion, and give an already born baby in a third world country a home. Come on now. Have some common sense.
Posted by: Lia | Mar 10, 2009 at 08:23 PM
I am pro-choice, and if you read the other comments about pro-choice women you'd realize why. Now imagine this situation if abortion is illegal:
You were raped. You got pregnant because of it. You had absolutely no choice in the matter. You're not ready for a kid, especially with no father. You can go through the pregnancy and give birth, and then give up the baby. Or you can keep him/her, but you won't be the best mom because you're not ready. You can't have an abortion because it's illegal, and you don't want to have an illegal one.
Or maybe you just made a bad choice, by getting pregnant. I don't hate pro-life people, but pro-choice makes more sense. I want to decide my own fate.
Posted by: laura | Mar 10, 2009 at 07:05 PM
personally, I'm pro choice, however, I would never get an abortion unless I was raped.
Here's why I'm pro-choice.
As of right now, there very well could be someone getting an abortion AS YOU READ THIS. And there is nothing you can do about it.
Tomorrow, someone will realize they can not afford pre-natal care or that they simply are not ready to have a child. And there is nothing you can do about it.
When you die, there will be women getting abortions all around the world and there will be nothing you can do about it.
In addition to that, I refuse to let voters decide whether or not I am ready to have a child. That decision affects me, my partner, and my family and close friends. Not some 60-year-old Republican white guy voting on legislation.
Would you rather women and fetus alike die in hotel rooms from botched abortions performed by amateurs?
Or would you rather ensure the safety of all humans by staying out of others' business?
Posted by: rachel | Mar 09, 2009 at 06:57 PM
I have question for all you religious pro-lifers, what if the fetus in question is gay? I bet that would change your mind huh?
Posted by: EA | Mar 08, 2009 at 12:49 AM
How many of us would like to see a cute little puppy killed because his mum didn't want him? I think most of us would say "Oh no no don't kill him, I'll take it home with me!"
Abortion sucks.
If it wasn't so expensive, I would adopt a baby and I'm not even married.
Plus girls I know who have had them have horrible experiences and suffer major depression from it. It's easier to deal with the temporary stares and uncomfortable feelings during pregnancy than an entire life-time of guilt and regret.
If you're old enough to get pregnant, you're old enough to deliver a baby.
So quit being a selfish brat and think about someone else for one. Your kid.
Posted by: leah | Mar 05, 2009 at 06:59 PM
I'm pro choice, because I believe your right to swing your fist stops where mine begins.
I know there's nothing I can say which will convince the pro-life people to be pro-choice, but there's nothing they can say that will make the pro-choice pro-life either.
Posted by: Anna | Mar 02, 2009 at 02:52 AM
I am STRONGLY pro-life, and if there is anyone on here that is heartless enough to make fun of me for that reason, I suggest that you read this and think before you speak:
Month One
Mommy
I am only 8 inches long
but I have all my organs.
I love the sound of your voice.
Every time I hear it
I wave my arms and legs.
The sound of your heart beat
is my favorite lullaby.
Month Two
Mommy
today I learned how to suck my thumb.
If you could see me
you could definitely tell that I am a baby.
I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though.
It is so nice and warm in here.
Month Three
You know what Mommy
I'm a boy!!
I hope that makes you happy.
I always want you to be happy.
I don't like it when you cry.
You sound so sad.
It makes me sad too
and I cry with you even though
you can't hear me.
Month Four
Mommy
my hair is starting to grow.
It is very short and fine
but I will have a lot of it.
I spend a lot of my time exercising.
I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes
and stretch my arms and legs.
I am becoming quite good at it too.
Month Five
You went to the doctor today.
Mommy, he lied to you.
He said that I'm not a baby.
I am a baby Mommy, your baby.
I think and feel.
Mommy, what's abortion?
Month Six
I can hear that doctor again.
I don't like him.
He seems cold and heartless.
Something is intruding my home.
The doctor called it a needle.
Mommy what is it? It hurts!
Please make him stop!
I can't get away from it!
Mommy! HELP me!
Month Seven
Mommy
I am okay.
I am in Jesus's arms.
He is holding me.
He told me about abortion.
Why didn't you want me Mommy?
Every Abortion Is Just . . .
One more heart that was stopped.
Two more eyes that will never see.
Two more hands that will never touch.
Two more legs that will never run.
One more mouth that will never speak.
i love babies and i lost the babies i was carrying in dec i was only 9weeks and 1 day but still that was my BABY
Posted by: katt | Feb 23, 2009 at 12:25 PM
I'm Pro-Choice.
I believe that everyone makes mistakes and should be given a choice to correct them, and we can't be so full of our selves to judge them. And I'm saying being full of ourselves, because to judge someone and their actions you must think that you are pretty perfect and haven't made or will make any mistakes in your life.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at anyone.I just think that people should watch what they say, and stop swearing at people who decide to get abortions, or people who decide that abortion is wrong and shouldn't be allowed. Girls on this website might have been through something similar so others should really stick their tongues in their brains before saying something. (or in this case their fingers, before typing!)
And the Pro-choicers that are being mean/rude to the Pro-lifers, it's their decision to make like it is ours. That's the thing that we support isn't it?Pro-CHOICE.
I'm not about to force my opinion on anyone.I respect all of the stuff being said here, and I believe that the point of this is to have a civilised debate, not yell obcenities to each other for our morals and choices.
That being said, I'm not sure how I would react if I was in a similar situation. I'm not going to say I'm NEVER getting an abortion, because I've never been in such a situation as I said before. I would like to believe that I am responsible enough not to get myself in an unwanted pregnancy out of me being careless, so I hope I never face that dilemma.
Now in the case of rape, I still don't know how I would react.I can't say what I would do, because I don't even know how I would feel.
So anyway, I think that people should stop being so presumptuous about these things, and think alot before they say some things...
So, I put my ten cents in, sorry for ranting so much, but I just had to get it out there...:)
Posted by: Dookie | Feb 21, 2009 at 03:39 PM
I also wonder why everyone CAPITALIZED everything. I guess for emphasis. Haha.
Posted by: Maddie | Feb 19, 2009 at 09:48 PM
I know that many people who claim Pro-Life have religious beliefs that a soul is created from the moment of conception. Also, many are ignorant. Not that all are, just some. I'm not accusing here. But there comes a point when you have to take into consideration tolerance.
Is it really right to force your morals and beliefs on everyone else who does not hold the same? You really must take into account other perspectives, please. I'm pro-choice because i believe it's wrong to force one set of beliefs upon everyone. That's the whole point of beliefs. They are individual, and they differ, so all options should be open to everyone.
And being pro-choice is not saying "Hey, lets all go kill our babies!" It means giving women the right over their own bodies and their own babies. You did not create that life, and therefore it is not your decision.
I believe in safe, rare abortions, preferrably first-trimester. Second trimester should be under appropriate circumstances (health of mother/child, financially unable to support child, too young, rape victim, etc).
And consider this - the definiton of death is after brain activity has ceased. Should the definiton of life not be the moment brain activity begins? Because it is very possible to perform abortions before that point, and before the point that a fetus gains consciousness of existence, and without consciousness of existence, you are not alive.
Pro-Life typically advocates the "Adoption Option" But there are serious flaws to this. Flooding the adoption agencies with unwanted babies would not solve any problems. The CDC estimates three adoption seekers for every one person that will actually adopt. It takes several years to adopt. In fact, only 120,000 adoptions were performed in the 1990s. And in 1997 alone, there were 1.186 billion abortions performed, or around 3250 per day. Likely, those numbers would decrease with making abortion illegal, but not enought to be effective.
So as you see, there's alot to consider. If you are against abortion, do not have one, and promote Pro-Life, but don't go to such measures as making abortion illegal for those who do not hold your beliefs.
I hope we can all learn some tolerance one of these days.
Posted by: Maddie | Feb 19, 2009 at 09:46 PM
I'm Pro-Life.
I DO NOT believe that you should punnish the child for the mother's misstakes and yes, it is a CHILD from conception.
I DO think that if the mother is not capable of safly having the child, an abortion could be a LAST resort (ex. too-young rape victom). If the mother can't take care of the baby or doesn't want the baby, then she should STILL have the baby, but put it up for adoption and give it to someone who CAN and WILL take care of it.
I can't belive that there's actually a Pro-Life group and a Pro-Choice group. Think about it! If you're not Pro-Life, then are you Pro-Death?! If you're not Pro-Choice, then are you Anti-Choice?!
NO, PRO-LIFE DOES NOT = ANTI-CHOICE
and if you have an abortion just because you DON'T WANT to have the baby, then in that case
PRO-CHOICE REALLY DOES = PRO-DEATH!!
THINK about sex, BEFORE you have it. If you just step back and think, you might just change your mind about what a "great idea" it is, but if you do have sex, BE PROTECTED!! It's SO important and it isn't that hard. It will keep you and your partner safe!! What's wrong with that?!
Posted by: Amygirl | Feb 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM
i am pro-life. you had the CHOICE to not have SEX and get PREGNANT in the first place. a fetus is a BABY at the moment of conception. KILLING that baby is horrible and HEARTLESS. THE BABY IS A HUMAN BEING FROM THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION. YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH A PREGNANCY? DONT HAVE SEX!!!
Posted by: madfinn | Feb 18, 2009 at 02:30 PM
Pro-Choice.
It's not always the girls fault that she is pregnant, you can use contraceptives and still end up pregnant and it certainly isn't the girls fault if she was raped. I believe life shouldn't be taken lightly and that the decision to have an abortion should be in the best interest for everyone involved, including the fetus. I also believe that if abortion were made illegal, women would still find a way to abort a pregnancy if they really wanted to and this could cause harm to the mother as well. Also, why should another person decide what is best for everyone? Its not right, because not every situation is the same.
Posted by: Erin | Feb 15, 2009 at 05:12 PM
does anyone who said 'theres adoption' and 'its your own fault' read anything Genevive said... In my opinion she had the best arguement of all really. Shes for abortion and makes a good statement to people who are against it, that theres always situations out there where the woman cant handle the pregnancy. To think about what you agree in and whats best for everyone not just your beliefs. Shes not telling a person who dont agree with abortion that they should get one but to understand while another woman may want one.
And another thing for anyone who says 'have it even if its rape, no matter what' I know someone who accidently got pregnant to find out she had cancer not long after her pregnancy and it was life threatening, by staying pregnant she wasnt just hurting herself but the child as well. Doctors said if she was lucky enough for the child not to die wothin the womb it would of been mentally disable and chances are grow up without its real mother so she choose abortion to get cancer treatments, and she still past away 6 months later, at this time if she kept the child she would of been 8 months pregnant and if it wasnt for the treatments she wouldnt of lived that long... so do you really think the child would survive?
Posted by: just me | Feb 12, 2009 at 11:08 PM
I'm Pro-life.
Because i feel that if you're grown enough to have sex than you should be ready for what ever comes with it, specially if your being unprotected. And as for the whole rape thing their are so many couples out there who are unable to have babys. If your blessed with being able to give life but you dont want the baby than take that opportunity and give the child to someone who does want it. But dont just hop on the abortion train because you feel thats your only choice, because its not.
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Posted by: catherine | Feb 11, 2009 at 05:18 AM
I'm prochoice for a very simple reason: I'm not going to make a 13-year-old girl who was raped by her father carry that child.
Obviously, it's more complicated than that. And I am VERY against people who view abortion as a form of birth control, instead of the last resort it really is. But as long as there are cases like the one above, abortion should still be an option for those who face unwanted pregnancy and did everything they could to prevent it. As far as making the choice between having the child and aborting it, every woman is different. It comes down to what the mother can handle better– pregnancy or an abortion? Because both are life-altering decisions.
(And, um, for the record, those who call pro-choice people "pro-abortion" are sorely mistaken. No one is "pro-abortion." No one is jumping around shouting, "Hey, as long as abortions are legal, let's get one EVERY month!!" Just putting it out there. Because I hear the term "pro-abortion" a lot and I just needed to clarify.)
Posted by: zoe | Feb 08, 2009 at 07:18 PM
To Alaura and Kizzle,
Kizzle...just because you have a great life with your unplanned child doesn't mean its just a little more rocky for others! People GET RAPED and commit suicide over getting pregnant from their rapist (read my earlier post). Do you think its easy for a woman to go through 9 months of a growing stomach, sickness, and mood swings when its all for a baby that they not only didn't want but was conceived from a traumatic and life changing event!? Once again I will say that they go through the 9 months of ups and downs and then go through agonizing pain of child birth to give away a baby that is the direct effect of their RAPE!? How cruel are you to make it seem like its the same circumstances as an accidental pregnancy!? People like you are trying to restrict these poor traumatized girls' right to live a more normal life, a happier life. Good Job, you just became an asshole. Also Alaura...you did not even mention any circumstance of rape, does it not even matter to you?
PEOPLE! Understand that being Pro-life is a serious and extremely restrictive stance in the debate on abortion. You must understand that if abortion became illegal the suicide rate would most likely increase among women, there would run the risk of overpopulation, more women would seek less stable options for abortion (going to other countries/home abortions/drugging in hope of miscarriage), orphanages would overflow more than they already are and more and more children would end up in unsafe foster homes and develop an unstable mental health, and poverty would most likely rise because of the amount of young single mothers. If you think that something that is unborn is more important than a woman's life potentially being torn apart then go ahead and be Pro-life, at least be courteous enough to give reason for your objection and your reasons for staying Pro-life among the possibilities of rape and the results of these unwanted pregnancies.
Just think it through first!
FYI: Pro-life doesn't make Pro-choice = Pro-death, it makes Pro-life = Anti-choice.
Posted by: Genevive | Feb 08, 2009 at 04:33 PM
I am pro-life because i believe a life is sacred. One of the main reasons I disagree with the Pro-choice stance is because it allows girls to escape the consequences of their actions. You guys say a woman shouldn't be forced to carry a baby if she doesn't want to or the that "its her body she can do what she wants with it" and she chose to have sex and knew about the possible consequences so she should be prepared to deal with them. At the very least I feel like there should be more regulations on abortions agency's as to who can and can't get an abortion
Posted by: Alaura | Feb 07, 2009 at 08:56 PM
I am PROLIFE! And yes, I am stubborn! I will always stick to it, no matter what anyone else says. I got pregnant at a young age....and I took on the life of a mother. It is wonderful too! I feel the same way that other person did. If you are raped, there is always adoption. But this is mainly about people just having sex and having abortion after abortion. I believe there are plenty of birth control options out there. But everyone has their opinions.....
Posted by: Kizzle | Feb 06, 2009 at 04:31 PM
I am a very strong Christian and always have been but I have also always been PRO-CHOICE! I dont know how anyone can possibly believe that forcing a woman to do something to her body that she avidly does not want to is humane on any level. That is just cruel. It is basically 9 months of emotional and physical rape. How can we call ourselves the "land of the free" where "everyone is equal" if we take away a woman's right to her own body? God gave her that body to do with as SHE pleases, so who are we to say what she can or cannot do with it? So it would actually be the ones who say pro- life that are trying to play God. God created us to be sinners. You are no better than your neighbor and shame on you for thinking you are! Thank the lord we have a choice because I would not want to raise my family in a world where they were treated in this manner.
Further to the point, what about ejaculations and periods? Aren't we "murdering" the beginnings of a baby? A "sweet little angel"? God made those completely natural. Do you suppose that we should not allow men to ejaculate unless it is inside of a fertile female? Or a woman to menstrate unless she will use that egg to create life? Newsflash people, this is America. The government does not get to control our reproductive organs. So shut your dang faces up and go read the bible a little closer. It seems you need the help more than the "sluts and hoes". ;p
Posted by: Riley | Feb 02, 2009 at 03:46 AM
A fetus usually don;t start getting sensory nerve cells until its 8 weeks in which is 2 month therefore before that point that baby cannot feel pain and its full nerve system isn't developed to feel all pain till 20 weeks.
Posted by: Justme | Jan 31, 2009 at 09:03 AM
I am Pro-Life. I can see the pro choice opinion but i would never have an abortion. When the fetus at conception become a living baby. They can feel things. All you have to do is watch the Silent Scream. It is a documentary of an actual abortion. I went on the Pro-Life walk this past month and it was an amazing event. I'm a Catholic but even if i wasn't, I would still be pro-life. Abortion is murder.
Posted by: Laurie | Jan 30, 2009 at 04:26 PM
to: Hiwi8989
EXCUSE ME... you can go fuck yourself! A raped person is in no way a slut and it gotta be hard knowing whats growing in side of her. Sex is for reproduction yes but its also a natural urge in life in helps with mental and physical stress and is a good work out and you do not no what a child in the womb is going to be it might be a serial killer not a good child and because you have sex your not a slut your HUMAN and you fulfilling a natural urge... your a slut if you fuck everything in sight! and as for me being a prochoice asshole... YOU ARE A CLOSED MINDED BITCH... maybe if you listen to reasons people have chose to have an abortion you'd think again.
Posted by: just me | Jan 30, 2009 at 01:09 PM
Oh also, Julie, a fetus barely has a brain towards the end of the 3 months that you CAN get an abortion, if someone gets an abortion like 3 days after the brain isn't even there and neither is the heart. Also fetus's can't have souls if they don't even have a personality or mind yet, a soul is a PERSONS morals, ways of thinking, and their individuality and a FETUS has absolutely none of that. If there were premeditated souls for all fetuses then people would be saying "Have a baby because it WILL have a soul!".
Posted by: Genevive | Jan 28, 2009 at 01:57 PM
Julie,
You don't think that victims of rape should be able to have abortions? Did you even read what I said? The difference between a fetus and a mentally challenged BABY are a couple things...a fetus is not a baby, true that it would grow into one one day but it CANNOT THINK yet, it CANNOT FEEEEEL yet and mentally challenged babies can! You also know that they don't put a gun inside of a woman's uterus and pull the trigger to perform an abortion correct? Also, I don't understand why people (ehem Christians) tell young women to not have sex, but if they DO then they say have the baby, isn't that just a little odd? I guess its just a form of punishment for those accidental mothers.
Posted by: Genevive | Jan 28, 2009 at 01:52 PM
i'm not going to get defensive or rude or arrogant because i know it gets no where.
the simple fact of the matter is, from the moment of conception, life begins. Abortion is the murder of a beating heart and a human. The term "fetus", though correct, sounds demeaning and should only be used on a medical basis. Lets call them what they really are, babies in the womb. What makes a child any less of one because they are inside/outside the uterus? What makes a child any less of one because they are not so much developed than other children? If thats the case, children with down syndrom are in the same boat.
Take it or leave it, but the hard truth is, every hour 150 babies are killed because they are an "inconvenience" to the mother and whoever else may be in the picture. You wouldn't go into the hospital maternity ward and shoot your baby after its out of the womb now would you? what makes that any different than when inside you? a beating heart is there, a brain is there, a body is there, a soul is there.
Posted by: Julie | Jan 28, 2009 at 02:09 AM
I'm pro-choice. You never know what's going on in someone's life. I don't think that everyone who lies down and has sex is TRYING to get pregnant. If you're not mentally/financially stable for a child, then maybe you do need an abortion. It's your body, it's your life and you should be able to do what you wanna.
Posted by: Kamille | Jan 27, 2009 at 01:51 PM
First of all I would like to say... SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE DOESN'T EXIST AND WON'T EXIST UNTIL ALL THE CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND HOW TO ACTUALLY HAVE COMPASSION TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE NOT JUST GOD!!! It may seem harsh but it is too frustrating to hear all those comments about GOD controlling their thoughts and of course involving GOD in OTHER PEOPLE's lives. They want to convert non-believers or the hell-bound sinners just like they have throughout history. Scaring people into believing in GOD and Hell is their classic tactic into making us all like them, the brainwashed, hateful, close-minded, "i'll pray for you!!!"- dipshits. Listen I know I am being stereotypical but hey guess what this stereotype is an extreme TRUE, don't get me wrong its not like that for all Christians.
Now getting to the actual topic of abortion, God has never specified anything scientific in the bible EVER, everything in the bible is magical! God does abortions every day by the way, its called a miscarriage. If you can say that a miscarriage is apart of GODs plan for you then GOD is the Devil himself and you are completely blinded by religion. For all you readers that think that a girl should've closed her legs or had protection then why do teenagers or humans in general have a sexual urge!? We were made to have sex when you're a teenage and an adult, if you think that a sexual urge is some kind of Demon inside of a non-believer then you do not believe in science then you must not believe in medicine, I say this because it is illogical to think that way anymore. Having a baby in this day in age as a teenager can be life-shattering, for some it can be a good time in their life but for most its a death wish. Let me tell you a true story about my friend... She was about 16 years old, she had strong Christian parents, she was raped, she got pregnant, her parents would not allow her to get an abortion, for 6 months (HALF A YEAR) she watched her rapists embodiment grow inside of her, not a day would pass that she wouldn't want that reminder out of her mind and body, during those 6 months she could not bear it anymore, she didn't want to be the bearer of such an evil act, she took a knife and forcefully gave herself a sea section, she died from the loss of blood. If you expect these girls of rape to have this baby and give it up for adoption then you have not thought it through one bit. 9 months, almost a year, of having this rapists baby inside of her and she goes through agonizing pain to bring it into the world just to never see it again and hope to forget what it was the result of. That rape baby would grow up and usually like most adoptive children, at one point they would want to know who their parents were. They hear that their mother was raped and they are a direct result of that criminal act, how disgusting and impure would you feel? This is all about understanding and most people cannot see the big picture. You pro-lifers out there do not care about the potential baby, you care about how you spread GOD's "love", if you cared then you would care for the MOTHER as well! GOD never even knew what a fetus was so how can you say that it is a sin to abort a fetus? You can say its killing but guess what we still have the death penalty and barely anyone cares about that as much as abortion, and besides the fetus cannot THINK YET! In of itself it doesn't even know if it exists or not, it is practically a doll inside of a person. "An aborted baby could've been the next president!", it also could have been a mass serial killer, but to make it not such a stretch it could be a president that is pro-choice. If you don't want to get an abortion then DONT! But like the Christians like to do, they can't settle for difference between people, everyone should be restricted of abortion.
I'd like to hear some responses to this.
State if its at me or not, please :P.
Posted by: Genevive | Jan 26, 2009 at 01:47 AM
I say, "Fuck all you baby killers. Sex is for reproduction. If you don't plan on being responisble or getting pregnant, then you shouldn't have sex. Keep your legs closed. An innocent little angel shouldn't have to butchered up because you were a slut. If you were raped, there is always adoption. If you were a minor, having to grow up and live the rest of your childhood knowing that you killed another child isn't fair to the minor. Fuck you pro-choice assholes.
Posted by: Hiwi8989 | Jan 23, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Adding to what I said, not all women who fall pregnant had unprotected sex. People keep saying if you're going to do it deal with the consequences, well it's not always your fault.
Accidents happen, that's why pencils have erasers.
Posted by: LeiahFo | Jan 22, 2009 at 02:21 AM
For all the pro-lifer's here, if you believe abortion is 'killing' and innocent life would you still eat meat?
That piece of steak you eat for dinner used to be a living, breathing, feeling being.
If a woman falls pregnant and doesn't want a child she has every right to abort it, nothing is worse then bringing up an unwanted child, there would also be a lot of deaths if there was to be a law against abortion due to home abortions.
Of course women need to know about safe sex and all that but it should still be an option if worse comes to worse.
Posted by: LeiahFo | Jan 22, 2009 at 02:11 AM
Pro-choice
Bringing an unwanted child into the world is cruel and criminal.
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Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 18, 2009 at 08:54 AM
I consider myself Pro-Choice. We must remember Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion are two different things. There is more to being Pro-Choice than just abortion. People who are truly Pro-Choice strive to make contraception inexpensive and available to all women regardelss of age, social status, or race. They are also advocates for real "sex-ed" not just abstinance only. Kids who are actually educated on how to engage in safe sexualy activity are more likely to have sex at an older age and make safer choices when they do finally decide to have sex, thus resulting in fewer unwanted pregnancies and STD's. I do not necessarily support abortion, I would never choose that option myself but I do believe women should be allowed to make that decision for themselves not the government. So eventhough I do not support the choice of abortion I still believe it should be an option. This is why I am Pro-Choice.
Posted by: Jessica | Jan 16, 2009 at 09:24 PM
Baby and fetus are not interchangeable, and I think that is the misunderstanding with Pro-Lifers.
An egg does not have a choice in living considering that someone else is carrying it. Basically, it's a parasite.
I love children, I want a lot when I am older, but every woman has a choice. I understand why some people may be pro-lifers, but that does not mean that they have the right to dictate what other people can do with their bodies. If you do not want to have an abortion, do not get one. If you do, go ahead.
The point is: Either way, it has nothing to do with me.
I believe women should be able to have abortions whenever necessary. What I do not believe in is when women use it as a birth control method.
I hope that Roe vs. Wade with never be overturned.
Posted by: Roo | Jan 14, 2009 at 08:26 PM
I don't believe in abortion during the second trimester, but anytime before that yes. Because on a serious note you should have made up your mind by then. I don't believe in adoption. Because half of those babies are given a life way worse in orphanages and foster homes where they are treated harshly. No one has the right to tell a person what to do with their body. Half of you pro-life people dont know anything about sex, are super religious (which im not at all), and are probably the same girls who get pregnant because they knew nothing about contraceptives.
Posted by: destiny | Jan 10, 2009 at 03:48 PM
i'm pro-choice. im a liberator and i believe in liberties. i hate when there is a girl who gets pregnant b/c she was uneducated about sex and then gets forced into having a child she doesn't want. Her rep is trashed, her life ruined, and she is taught that people should make decisions for her. I hate when people tell you to keep the baby as if its their body and their life. I would say to that person "Are you the one that's going to have this baby?" I'm tired of hearing about the baby that was thrown in the garbage because the mother never wanted it to begin with. I'm tired of hearing of the baby being thrown down the incinerator, or drowned, or shook to death. The worst stories are the children that are abused mentally and physically because the parent never wanted them. If you really cared about the baby's life you wouldn't be pro-life. Either way you look at it the mother and baby both deserve a good life. A child deserves a proper home and a girl deserves to make a mistake and correct it. If you were in their shoes you would know how scary it is to give everything up for something you never wanted.
Posted by: destiny | Jan 10, 2009 at 03:40 PM
rachel if you believe that poem or whatever I sugguest you check the facts... why some in true some aint. At 2 months you cannot tell its a baby... I know many people who had miscarriages at about 3 months and said all it looked like was a big bloodcloth
Posted by: justme | Jan 10, 2009 at 11:08 AM
dear racheal and other pro-life,
HAHAH are u trying to make pro-choice people feel bad?
thats just fucking dumb.
really its not up to anyone else what a women wants to with her body!
i understand u feel its wrong to abort and"kill" an unborn babby but really think about alllllllllllllllll the orphans there are today in the world.
most people want to adopt babbys right?
well what about all thoose babbys who werent adopted or whoose parents died or just left them like say and 8 year old whoose mom was a crack addict.she wanted to have an abortion but was denied becuz of the new law saying she couldnt.then sh later died from an overdose...
if u were a woman who couldnt have kkids and u wanted a baby really badddly u would pick the baby....
then what happens to the 8 year old?
it sitts in a friecking foster home or orpahnage full of emotion and emptiness until someone adots him or her and that takes years.
im not trying to change ur mind but dont fucking sitt here and try and ridicule women for wanting to have a choice about what they do with their boddies.
thats just wrong.
i mean no woman i no could go into a clinic, get an abortion, and walk out with a fucking smile like nothing happened.
they would feel prettty shittty.
so why make them feel worse.
and i gaurentee yyou if u were raped u would be so upset and hurt and scared and clueless and helpless u would not want to keep your baby.as a constant reminder of how you were raped,beaten, and used like a piece of ass.
you all say right now that u would....but just wait til it actually fucking happens to you like it did to me!
you really think i WANTED that to happen?
HELLL NO!
i would havee loved to keep my babby.
but i would NEVER be able to live with myself thinking that my child was a fucking mistake.
and what happens when the curious 5 year old comes to you and asks "mommy, wheres my daddy?"
what the fuck are u gunna say?!
now dont get me wrong i thinks its not right for people to use abortion as birth control but u have to think of EVERY situation before u can judge anyone and tell anyone what they can and cant do with their boddy.
haaa
Posted by: Melllllllyyy M(: | Jan 09, 2009 at 01:58 AM
I am VERY pro-choice. I say this because
1. I am not religious
2. What a woman does with her body is her business
3. I have seen countless young girls in my ****-awful town get knocked up and popping out babies constantly and don't even have enough money to get lunch for them. And they're not smart enough to know how to use protection either because my town is pro-abstinence sex ed. Most of these young girls are repeating their mothers' lives and I'm nearly certain their daughters will do the same.
4. Some women who get abortions want to because of rape. BLAH BLAH adoption. Granted that's one thing to give a child to a family who wants it, but being pro-life and forcing people to carry a baby to term? Have you witnessed some of the discrimination young pregnant girls face? One of my friends was raped and impregnated. I don't want to see any other 14-year old girls stuck in dead-end minimum wage jobs because they couldn't get a diploma because they were raped by some pedophile! She had a bright future. If she was allowed to get an abortion she could have gone to prom, went to college, gotten a real job... instead, people spat on her calling her a whore and slut... not even knowing what happened to her.
5. There are far too many parents who really should not be allowed have children to begin with. What about all those babies born to parents to just turn around and murder them? Especially the ones who lived in torture, like the little baby boy (last year, I believe) who died in horrible conditions, strapped to a car seat and left to die in a crib? It breaks my heart to think of the suffering that poor child endured before he died... if his parents just had the abortion they wouldn't have been able to do that to him. If you question the validity, good "Benjamin Sargent"
Posted by: sugar | Jan 09, 2009 at 01:54 AM
I am STRONGLY pro-life, and if there is anyone on here that is heartless enough to make fun of me for that reason, I suggest that you read this and think before you speak:
Month One
Mommy
I am only 8 inches long
but I have all my organs.
I love the sound of your voice.
Every time I hear it
I wave my arms and legs.
The sound of your heart beat
is my favorite lullaby.
Month Two
Mommy
today I learned how to suck my thumb.
If you could see me
you could definitely tell that I am a baby.
I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though.
It is so nice and warm in here.
Month Three
You know what Mommy
I'm a boy!!
I hope that makes you happy.
I always want you to be happy.
I don't like it when you cry.
You sound so sad.
It makes me sad too
and I cry with you even though
you can't hear me.
Month Four
Mommy
my hair is starting to grow.
It is very short and fine
but I will have a lot of it.
I spend a lot of my time exercising.
I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes
and stretch my arms and legs.
I am becoming quite good at it too.
Month Five
You went to the doctor today.
Mommy, he lied to you.
He said that I'm not a baby.
I am a baby Mommy, your baby.
I think and feel.
Mommy, what's abortion?
Month Six
I can hear that doctor again.
I don't like him.
He seems cold and heartless.
Something is intruding my home.
The doctor called it a needle.
Mommy what is it? It hurts!
Please make him stop!
I can't get away from it!
Mommy! HELP me!
Month Seven
Mommy
I am okay.
I am in Jesus's arms.
He is holding me.
He told me about abortion.
Why didn't you want me Mommy?
Every Abortion Is Just . . .
One more heart that was stopped.
Two more eyes that will never see.
Two more hands that will never touch.
Two more legs that will never run.
One more mouth that will never speak.
Posted by: Rachel | Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33 AM
I also live in canada chrystlin and I know you said a child can be aborted at any age which I found strange because my cousin was 7 months pregnant and wasnt allowed they said it had to be dont in the first 3-4 months... now just the same I really dont think she woulda went threw with it anyway more so pressure caused her to think about it, in which when she found out they planned to give it up for adoption and she couldnt part with the child once she gave birth.
Posted by: justme | Jan 07, 2009 at 02:10 PM
look if it aint my body it aint my concern point blank. if u r not ready 2 b a mom get an abortion! but the fetus' 2 have been used 4 stem cell research.
Posted by: Nikia | Jan 06, 2009 at 07:54 PM