no more mr. “nice guy”...please!

are "nice guys" really that nice?

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no more mr. “nice guy”...please!

art & story by:
rachel nabors

Comments

[Carly]

haha, great comic. Never trust a guy who says "i'm a nice guy" they are just trouble waiting to happen.

[Yue]

ah i read that blog thingy and i couldn't agree more, no one is more logical and more funny when she's pissed off than Rachel the great X3

Man i appricate the guy friends i still have alot more right now, even though i have one nice guy friend, it still makes me feel better that he ain't like that prick that wrote that Nice Guy's are gone because of women crap. I need to appriciate those bone head spazzes i call friends alot more now that i re-read that blog. Thanx Rachel

Oh and when are you coming back??? i miss chu and your comics D:

xo Yue~!

ps. 2nd post on here yay~ :P

[Oasis]

that was THE BOMB! So true! I ove the real nice guy! He's sooo cute! :D

[Ciera]

i would date the nice guy not the "nice guy".the nice guy is so sweet and kind.the"nice guy" would get a kick in the nuts!

[Kylie]

"I'll get the tar you get the feather." lol funny funny...ya did it again!

[Morganaaaaaa]

now it is true that this is not a "one size fits all" comic for two types of guys but in my experience i have known some pretty creepy "nice guys" this one guy got seriously mad cuz i didnt IM him often enough. and then when he would text me if i wouldnt text him fast enough he would text back "oh i guess you dont wanna talk" and try to guilt me into it. anywayz i liked the comic. the point of the actual nice guy friend is that he isnt interested in you on ONLY a sexual level but truely cares about you and wants to be your friend because yall get along.

i <3 this comic

[Jessica]

*Props to poisongirl's comment*
This comic didn't make much sense to me, because sometimes they just aren't so bitchy. Or obvious.XD
It's like it only happens a long time into the relationship; and I don't believe that "nice (as in, like nice&innocent&asexualish) guys" exist either.

[tamara]

i this is one of the best comix that rachel has done.plus it really does help.don't stop writing these comix

[AmorMJ]

I hope that "nice guy" (quotation marks) gets the tar and feathers (LOL), cos let me tell you, if I run into anyone like that, THEY ARE GOIN DOWN!

[E]

Whatever happened to Rachel, anyway? It's been three months since this comic, and it's no longer possible to access her website.

[Owen]

Though there definitely should be a field guide (for both genders, and many stereotypes), this is far from it. Some of the information is fairly insightful, but some is assuming guilt from what could be harmless. Heck, when I'm feeling sad even my CAT sometimes rubs against me, but that doesn't mean I should take it as a sexual advance. And I've been friends with many women that were lesbians that I knew I couldn't be with, but I still gave them hugs when I felt they'd be uplifting.
A large portion of the problem, IMHO, isn't so much people pretending to be nice guys, but women not being happy with actual nice guys. For instance, one page you have a "nice guy" asking why the girl didn't respond, even though a true nice guy might simply be concerned about her welfare, rather than the possessive interrogation that it seems to hint.
Directly after that one, you have a nice guy who "hangs out with you because it's fun," and a 'nice guy' that hangs out because "he secretly wants to have sex with you but is too cowardly to even ask you out." Are you saying that true nice guys don't want sex? Or are you saying that nice guys ask girls out even if they're in committed relationships? And just because a girl is the type you'd date doesn't mean you want to jump in the sack, either.
The next plants seeds of doubt into any girls heart that has ever received a present from a guy, simply because of the word 'yet.' Some guys really do just do nice things for women. I'm friends with one girl that really likes frogs, so when I ended up with a stuffed one, I thought of her and gave it to her. Does that mean she should be worried that eventually I'll want compensation? That seems to be what the comic would encourage: paranoia.

[????]

un...be...lieve...able! KEVIN COSTELLO is a totaly "Nice guy". He's really unstable. He gets pissed for basically no reason at all. And he takes it out on me and my friends. I want to drop him as a friend, but he's always friggin there!!!!

[our katy]

"What I'm not sure of is a females' motives with regard to having a nice guy friend...why do you want to just "hang out' with a guy, anyway? Wouldn't you be better off with girlfriends?"
I think that this is the real problem: we're fed all this stuff through romantic comedies or chick lit or whatever that tells us you just can't be friends with someone of the opposite sex without there being a Motive; the friendship has to grow into something else otherwise it's not worth having at all. And it's not always like that in real life.

[Bri]

Can a friendship with a nice guy ever develop into something more? Should it? or does that mean he was a "nice guy" all along?

[Lineswine]

From a guys perspective, we tend to have female friends that we don't initially fancy, sometimes it just happens.
Equally, women can give some mixed signals too.

Yes, I'd be happy for a female friend to find a guy she's happy with, why not?

The comments about "he was a creep, he just wanted into my pants"..yes that is possible, but are you sure? Not all guys are like that & you may be flattering yourself.

The safest option in "nice guys" as far as women are concerned are gay men - the 100% don't want into your underwear & can discuss things that interest women in great depth.

What I'm not sure of is a females' motives with regard to having a nice guy friend...why do you want to just "hang out' with a guy, anyway? Wouldn't you be better off with girlfriends?

If it surprises you that guys think about sex a great deal, you have an awful lot to learn about men.

[Jordan]

Cripes, I've known too many "nice guys" in my time. They're absolutely unbelievable. The comic is adorable, by the way!

[brit.monkey]

i know a LOT of nice guys...1 i know 4 sure is fake, bcuz when im quiet or act emo, he's always the first 2 try 2 hug me...and i kinda hav a "chest" if u kno what i mean...after that he started wanting hugs all the tyme...and then recently i noticed how hard he was coming on to me, saying sexual-things-and-junk...i didnt even TRY not 2 hurt his feelings...

[Kate (again)]

You can still read her comix on her website I think,it explains on her blog about her leaving gurl for a bit.
I don't think you're a nice guy or a "nice guy", vangar. Just a guy! Sometimes putting people into boxes isn't necessary. Everyone has the potential to be a nice person or a jerkwad...

[Crimsonkiss]

Great Comic! I read somewhere that Rachel has left Gurl, does anyone know if this is true or not? I hope it's not. I don't know what I'll do without my Rachel the Great fix. ;)

[Canulia]

Ha Ha.. That's really funny. I actually know a few "nice guys". They're not my friends or anything, but I heard their conversations about their girl friends. It is disgusting!

[jeejee]

bewbiesssssssssss!

[Vangar]

Am I a nice guy or a "nice guy"? I just broke up with my girlfriend because well she couldn't say she loved me. I still care for her I gave her back all the things that reminded me of her and 220 dollars to hang out with her friends to talk about what an ass I am. I started smoking because I just hate myself right now. I wrote her name on every one in the pack. I in all honesty am beside myself I can't seem to eat right or sleep. I think I'm just looking for pity right now. I left a message for her saying I miss her. Am I a nice guy? Cause I certainly don't feel like one.

[PoisonGirl]

loved this!! it really hit home. i've had soo many guys say they just wanted to be friends when it was obvious they wanted more, and even though i made it clear that nothing more than friendship would come out of the whole thing (and i was WAY blunt, which is how i get when i'm really annoyed hehe), they would still keep at it. sooo freaking annoying. ditching them instantly killed the drama in my life and brought such peace into it lol. get rid of these guys!! they're sooo not worth your time.

[Talbotlynx]

Nice. It got me laughing pretty good. Thankfully I got too many female friends to keep me from slipping into being that kind of creep. lol

[Nia]

Once again, pure genius. It's true about the two different types of nice guys because I've come across both, and I'm lucky to be dating the real thing. Hahaha. I read your livejournal entry, and found it very clever and that the "recovering nice guy" held a thick undertone of b*tchosity.

[Otum]

u no wat, i hav a "nice guy" friend that i've been trying to get rid of for the longest. (thanx for the advice ov tha feathers LOL) :)

[Brielle]

There was this one guy, and he was a "nice Guy", he didn't want to talk to me or go out with me. But, all he wanted to do was stare at me and smile. Once I got to know that he's a real creep, I decided he wasn't worth my time. It was really horriable.

[Meg]

It's sad but it's so true. I have had my share of "nice guys" but I never covered them in tar and feathers, but that is a good idea. JK.

P.S.(love your comix rachel. keep drawing!)

[ella]

oh my god. i had a boyfriend just like that! he was always talking about how nice of a guy he was and how awful and evil all females are. including me, apparently, because he gave me more than enough bullsh/t. it got old real quick. and hes in like 10 of those facebook groups that are devoted to how nice guys arent appreciated. bullll. your comic was dead on :]

[Isa]

i love the comic but may i confirm that if my boyfriend kisses and hugs me and even wanted me to have sex with him when i'm sad, he's considered a 'nice guy'??

[hippiesque]

Oh gosh, I know the type. :/

[Felix]

I am plagued with a "nice Guy" and I knew from the start that he fancied my (sounds like and ego trip but he was very obvious) He's such a pain! GWAR! I need rid of him. and when I flst out reject him, a day later hes like--- "are you sure, can you just check?" and Im like " I dont have to go down to the oven and ask my heart- its right here you know!" and now everytime we have a conversation hes reminding me that "DOESNT have a crush on ANYONe...nope- NO ONE" I could just punch him in the face XD

[zippy]

This is what I suggest. If you want to know if a guy is a nice guy, find out what his friends are like and what he is like around them. Birds of a feather flock together. Dick heads hang out with dick heads. The only real exception to this is if the guy is part of the group out of pity. Then he might have dick head friends that don't really care about him and he might still be a nice guy.

For example: I have a friend who made out with a guy a shit load one day but they never declared themselves dating so after a week he avoided seeing her at all. Dick head. Who does he hang out with? A pompous rich kid fuck head. Coincidence? I think not.

[Sketch]

I knew a "nice guy." He wasn't my "nice guy" though, he was infatuated with my friend. She was a very nice girl, and couldn't bring herself to flat out reject the guy because they had been friends for so long. He thinks he's such a catch, but he's one of those over weight, doesn't bother with trying to look his best, over sensitive, can dish it out but sure can't take it, clingy, stalker types. And I'm not being shallow with my appearance comment, I'm just saying the boy could do SOMETHING.

I used to be friends with him, and I mean real friends. It was my other friend he was always interested in, but now I can't even look at him. I was always there to keep him in check, I wouldn't allow him to play guilt cards or try to pull anything under handed, but this self proclaimed "nice guy" tried to force himself on my best friend not even a month after I moved away.(and I think you all know what I mean by force) Anyway, I really appreciate this comic. It's hard to deal with these guys, and I'm definitely going to send a link to that girl friend of mine. Maybe this can make her see what I've been trying to tell her.

Oh, by the way, we have a real nice guy for a friend too, and he's the one that protected her in my stead.

[Izalebeth]

I've known some of those "nice guys"! Uhg, annoying as anything, I make it clear that they are unwelcome after they start that "but I've always been there for you!" and "I've done everything, why don't you LOVE ME!" (I did, just not in that way, now I don't at all). The REAL nice guy is now my boyfriend. Funny how that works, isn't it?

The only close guy friend I have now is strait as a circle!

[Holly]

LOL. I just the love the opening page with the nice guy saying hello. Very cute.

[Taylor]

Oh man do I know what you mean by this comic! I can relate very well to it. Also I read the livejournal post...laughed so hard my sides hurt. The kind of laugh that makes no noise because it's so hearty. Haha!

I have known many of these guys. They made it seem like I was leading them on...but I wasn't. They played the guilt card one too many times. Once being too many. Luckily I have a few actual nice guy friends. The kind that will be there for me without expecting a blow job in return.

[Allison]

You go, Rachel. I definitely know somebody like this. Thanks for making this comic! Self-appointed "nice guys" suck and us girls need to watch out for them!

[Iklishi Udie]

True that, girl. True that...

[grace taverna]

Rachel I love you.

This is why I'm so glad that all my nice guy friends are as gay as the day is long. <3

[Alison]

I am SO glad that you made this comic it opened my eyes and realize that there is even more of a difference between nice guys and 'nice guys'! I never really thought about it until just now and I'm happy that I did! I thought about this guy who was exactly a 'nice guy' and when we stopped being friends he threw a hissy fit and said that I 'owe him for something'.

Seriously, this should get out more. More girls need to read this comic because it hits home for a LOT of us! Good job!

[Jess]

Wow, that is so true. Another great comic, Rachel!

[Lizz]

Yes, "Nice Guys" might cuddle and flirt with you when your feeling down but a real nice guy is just there for you and not always clinging to you. I love nice guys.

[Janesssa]

Good thing the nice guy I know is good one.Ill be creeped out if I knew a "nice guy".

Great comic.Loved it.C:

[tatiana]

this comic is so cute. and it'z evr so real.

[molly]

Awesome comic. ^^ I've run into a few "nice guys". If only there was an easy way to get rid of them. :S

[Melanie]

O____________O The Nice Guy looks EXACTLY like my guy friend and acts EXACTLY the same!(^_^) Is that freaky or what?!

My other friend once dated a "Nice Guy". He screwed her over. I had fun beating the crap out of him online, in a chat room. (I went all Judge Judy on him. XD) He hurt her really bad and kept e-mailing her about his new girlfriend. I shut him up real quick.

That story was irelevant.

Great comic once again Rachel, and congrats on your engagement! ^____^ This reminds me I need to work on my comics!

[Yue]

wow this helped alot about how to tell guys apart now! Thanks Rachel, and i love tuna XD he wants to make that guy look like a chicken xDD

i think i have a few "nice guy" friends and then i also have a few nice guys, which is good to know, but my "nice guy" friend likes my best friend, i should really let her read this comic. Just because they are "nice guys" doesn't mean i'm just gonna stop being their frineds tho :3 but now i really appricate my nice guy friends alot more, even if they are total spazes xD

[sk]

I dunno, real nice guy freak me out they are way tooo nice, it's jut stange, being payed attention to so much

[michelle]

As funny as ever. I'm going to miss reading your comics every Wednesday. Good luck with your engagement and I hope to be seeing you around here again!